Letters

March 17, 2008

Well just about everyone I know is going somewhere over spring break—me I am happy to enjoy home. Don’t get me wrong, I love traveling and exploring new places . . . but this year, I am just happy and content to enjoy some down time at home!

By the looks of this week’s letters it appears that how we conduct ourselves in public has hit a chord with many. I have been with people before who have acted atrociously to their servers. I ended up apologizing for their behavior vowing to never go with them again. Unfortunately, by the sounds of this it happens way more than it should. We have heard that some pastors have used this article to share in some form or fashion with their congregations. That’s great. Maybe—just maybe a few will realize the damage such behavior causes for all of us!

Finally, while we’re thrilled with the new zine’s new look, we’re still suffering through a few technical glitches with our blogs and other areas, so we appreciate your patience.

Re: “Internet Love Come True

My “best buddy” is about 30 years younger than I am. We kind of “adopted” him when he first started coming to our church lonely, separated from his wife, and fairly unhappy. We started feeding him, having him drop by when he was lonesome, and he and I talked on the phone frequently, usually at about 2 a.m.

He got divorced shortly after that, and he felt that no nice woman would ever want him. He felt like he had the scarlet letter “D” on his chest where everybody could see it. No one was available for him to date in the home church, so I decided to find him some “pen pals” online by doing searches for Apostolic young ladies who were on AOL. I would get to be friendly with them first and then talk them into corresponding with him. There were several applicants.

One young lady in Louisiana finally agreed to meet him, but her family insisted that I come there with him (so they could find out if either of us were “axe murderers” etc.). The day they were to meet, he and I had a long, anointed prayer meeting in the hotel. Then we left to meet the young lady’s family. They brought all of the family to the restaurant to meet us. As they bragged about their daughter, I bragged about my friend.

The next day they went on a date together most of the day and alone while I “cooled my heels” at another location. They then began a long telephone courtship, with frequent trips by him to Louisiana, and they finally got married over a year later. His father likened the situation to the biblical story of Abraham’s sending a servant back to the “home country” to find a good wife for Isaac.

They’ve now been married for over five years (I was best man in the wedding), and they have two precious little girls. They’re in a good Apostolic church and trying to do a work for the Lord. So, internet meetings for Apostolics can turn out well if the Lord is in them.

Name Withheld by Request, Texas

Re: “72 Cents

This is truly sad. Perhaps the leadership in the UPCI and other Apostolic groups need to add proper Pentecostal behavior to what is already taught about dress and hair. Before I was Apostolic, the church I was in taught a lot about “Blood on Your Hands,” referring to situations where we misrepresented Christ to the unsaved and thus would be held responsible for someone not finding Christ. Sounds like we need to become more aware of this.

However, I need to say, that the UPCI church I attend here in Rochester does emphasize this. When our youth go to restaurants and other public places together we consistently get very positive feedback. People have been drawn to our church because of this. So—not all UPCI youth are like the one’s you experienced.

Richard Ferguson, New York

Re: “72 Cents

Great article and long overdue. I have been out with a lot of Pentecostals who tipped poorly. I once pointed this out to a group of our ladies at a steak house. To put it mildly this bit of information was not well received.

It is also a shame that Pentecostals are implacable about restaurant service. I have been embarrassed a number of times by this attitude of my brothers and sisters. Many servers know to beware of groups with the denim-skirted ladies.

I wonder if this stems from the fact that a lot of Pentecostals think of themselves as different and therefore superior—a not so benign form of Phariseeism that causes them to look down on other Oneness Pentecostals, not to mention all non-Pentecostals.

We are smothering our witness to the truth. If we are going to stay at upscale and overpriced hotels, we need to learn how to have an upscale witness. It is time for Pentecostals to stop acting like a bunch of bumpkins who have never been to the city.

Perhaps we need to replace some of those lessons on wearing denim skirts with a sermon or two on “love is not rude.”

Gary Mink, Tennessee

Re: “Sad, But True

Praise the Lord to all that read this. It is no more complicated that how much a person really loves the Lord and is truly dead to their flesh between their ears. Yes, I have seen this happen for years one place or another. It is a very sad witness. Then someone thinks that they are doing the Lord service by leaving a church card or a tract. Golden Rule apply here? I think so. I have seen a group of older people do this. You know the ones that hang around an assembly but never really get a good praying through on a consistent basis.

It is truly hard to see ourselves at times is it not? We need to see ourselves from the Lord’s perspective and not our own justification. All the ways of a man are pure where—in his own eyes. Comprehensive repentance is a must for light to shine. Thank you and God bless.

Stephen Forkum, Arkansas

Re: “72 Cents a Pentecostal

This is the painful truth! So many times I have been with groups of people, ashamed of the way they suddenly forget that they are the representatives (ad should be) reflections of Christ. The Bible says that they will know that you are His disciples by your love for another, but the sad truth is that they still know who you say you are when you forget to show His love. Thank you for bringing this to our attention! Someone needed to say it!

Justin McGee, Illinois

Re: “Education for Salvation

I am so embarrassed that a Bible-believing, Holy Ghost-filled Christian would write such an article. If our confidence comes from a degree and education is essential to other’s salvation, then the majority of the people filling our churches will be the most ineffective witnesses this world has ever seen. Yet, somehow, the most effective soul winners we have are not academia’s elite, but the sincere, simple, sold-out-for-Jesus folks that grace our churches.

Romans 12:3 warns us about thinking more highly of ourselves than we ought. I Corinthians 12:23 also admonishes us that those of us who seem to be the least honorable are the ones who we are to honor the most and those who are “uncomely” or the least presentable are the ones who become the most presentable.

I see a rising trend among young Apostolics (for those of you who find it demeaning to be called a “Pentecostal”) that sickens and saddens me. It is this attitude attached with higher education that borders pride and arrogance and plain ignorance. We are not presenting the world a thesis! We are presenting them the gospel. The Lord made it so simple that a child could share it. Please, don’t be so foolish to think a degree will make it more ““palatable” to the world. Your godly consistent witness coupled with your prayers, are what is going to change this world. Have we forgotten what it means to be a real Christian these days? God help us!

Bridget Phillips, Massachusetts

Re: “7 Steps to Sanity

Loved the article. Used it to teach my teen class last week (grades 7, 8, 9). Insightful and inspirational!

Joyce R. Sowinski, New York

Re: “All of It

I was at work and thought I’d check this site out. What a great site! Very inspiring! God bless true Apostolic ministry.

Jacob Keefe, New Zealand

Re: “72 Cents

That’s horrible, shameful, and downright un-Christ-like! Sometimes I feel so “righteously-angry” it’s a good thing I have to read about these events and not witness them first hand. Now that I am an older member of the UPCI youth, I think it would have been very difficult for me to not have gone up to that group and revealed to them the witness they were leaving behind. I too have seen situations like this in my home in Missouri, and I am just as much ashamed of them as I would be if it were someone I personally knew.

I thank God that He gave me a pastor that very firmly, gently yet sternly, and biblically taught the young people in my church (when I was a teenager) just what kind of witness he expected us to leave behind. I am sorry you had to go through this, but I can think of no better person to help God clean up someone else’s mess then one of His kids that actually “gets it!” I am glad He put you there and not me—I might have expressed my own frustration rather than helping sooth it and make peace. I appreciate your gentleness, and your willingness to help bring Him glory. Keep up the godly work!

Kari Lynn, Missouri

Re: “Education Isn’t for Salvation.”

Where are the souls won by those with the secular education?—would be a great Big Question.

It would be interesting in your next reader’s survey to find the average salary of secular college graduates and bible college graduates. From my limited research it looks like students of the same academic potential, the bible college graduation makes about $5,000 to $10,000 more per year.

Another interesting fact is most secular college graduates’ degrees are in Psychology and they work in the I.T. field in entry level positions. Most Bible School graduates divide between managers of stores, operations, and factories or in the same I.T. positions.

Most secular college students graduate have a $20,000 debt on their heads and Bible school graduates are debt free. Who wants to get the most out of life?

P.S. Nice new look to the website.

Hugh Plappert, Minnesota

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